Hillary Supporters for McCain: A Democratic False Flag Op?
I ask only because, while the Internet is a great place for stupid people to meet up, the timing seems too nearly choreographed for my liking. And this seems too ridiculous for Karl Rove Republicans to touch with a ten foot pole, so of course the Democrats are probably to blame.
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One of the more clever political tricks to play is the “false flag” operation. It’s really simple: you get a bunch of people to pretend to be on the other side of your position, and set them up so they look like a legitimate outfit. Then you get the group to either attract opposing activists, and corral them into doing nothing substantive, or make such fools of themselves that anyone who might possibly be on the fence will leap back to your side of things if only to avoid being associated with... THEM.
It’s a clever tactic, and time-honored. In fact, I’ve often suspected David Horowitz’s “Frontpage” to be a long-term false flag, perpetrated on his behalf (along with many unwitting accomplices) to make conservatives look really, really bad. How else could you explain the inanity that tumbles out of his bullcrap mill every day?
(On the other hand, maybe he really just is that loopy.)
But what’s good for the goose is good for the gander. And, in this season of wild accusations without much proof (“Lucille” the waitress on one side, Larry Sinclair on the other, Trig Palin’s parentage in-between) I have an unfounded suspicion of my own.
To wit: the various Democrats Opposing Obama for McCain (DOOM) outfits, while they might be made up of individual stupid people, are being handled and groomed, though maybe not funded, by Democratic operatives in the hopes of preventing said stupid people from doing anything REALLY harmful to the campaign.
Quite a mouthful, I know. Also quite a theory! What do I have to prove this? Nothing. Just a bad, bad feeling.
But...
Watch this video of Chris “Tweetybird” Matthews talking to people claiming to be from Clintons 4 McCain. And keep an eye on the Anne Coulter impersonator in the middle.
Okay, now, you’re probably wanting to burn that out of your mind. But think about this: the garbage that “Anne” is spewing -- how many active, well-informed Democrats do you know of that would really buy into that kind of tripe? The story itself has been researched, debunked, and turned into near-meaningless vapor, circulated only by the likes of Robert “Islam=terror” Spencer and company in the hopes of remaining relevant during the 2008 election cycle.
In other words, if they were hoping to get on national television and present something of a coherent argument as to why they should vote for John McCain rather than Barack Obama, they failed miserably.
And then there’s Party Unity My Ass (PUMA) Or Party Unity Means Action, depending on which graphic you prefer to look at.
One of their head honchos, Will Bower, got on FOX News to explain his side of things. About 1:37 in, the real question is asked: “Why? Why would your group want to vote for John McCain over Barack Obama. On issues, they’re just about diametrically opposed on every issue?”
Will’s answer is... no answer. He points out that, yes, not all PUMAs will vote for John McCain. But then he rambles about having faith in what Obama would do, versus what he says, which is always a good point to make about any politician. However, he neglects to think about the important point that underlies his own: which candidate would be more likely to do what your average Democrat would want him to do -- McCain or Obama?
(FOX News, of course, neglects to point that out, much less call him on his evasions.)
Darragh Murphy, Executive Director of PUMA PAC, told a reporter that “the only way to save the Democratic Party at this point is to destroy it. Mr. Obama must lose, and his supporters must be purged.”
Stalinism, anyone? Since when do Democrats talk like that about their own damn party?
Admittedly, Holy Joe Lieberman IS being shown to the door, at long last, but a full-scale “purge” of Obama supporters -- and there are many of them -- would lead to a crippled, horribly weakened party that would be in no shape to do anything in 2010, and possibly even 2012. How can they NOT see that?
How can they NOT see that having McCain in office would be, from a Democratic standpoint, a terrible thing? How can they NOT see that, from a Democratic standpoint, having Sarah Palin one heartbeat away from the President’s chair would be even worse? How can they NOT see that, while it’s great that a woman was nominated to be Vice President, voting for her ticket over Obama’s would be, from a Democratic standpoint, the equivalent of biting your own nose to spite your face?
And how can they NOT see that, however badly Hillary Clinton was treated in the nomination process, that not voting for Obama over McCain is a horribly selfish, stupid thing to do in the face of a national emergency, a war gone out of bounds, the need to change our economic and environmental policies, and other issues that are vastly more important that whether or not some fools out there looked at Hillary Clinton and saw only a woman, rather than a viable, qualified candidate for the Presidency?
If these people who are organizing these groups were just Johnny-and-Jane-come-latelys who appeared from nowhere, like a bad case of food poisoning, and got some ratty little website going, I’d suspect mere stupidity and laugh at them. If they came from nowhere and scored interviews on FOX News, and had a good website up and running just in time for the hits they’d score after the interview, I’d suspect Republican money was involved, and want to see who paid for their website, and who donated what, when and to whom.
But these people are known quantities: old-hand Democratic activists and fundraisers. They should know what the full stakes are. They should know that, in a time like this, you pull the party together and run with the candidate you have, because the alternative is so much worse.
They should know these things, and yet they aren’t doing it.
And that’s why I suspect there’s a false flag in play. I suspect they have been ordered, under the table, to corral the idiot and doofus populations of the Democratic Party in order to keep them from doing or saying something really damn stupid. And I suspect that they are hoping that their own, stupid and short-sighted antics will keep others from joining them.
To what ultimate end, I don’t know. But I predict that, when the dust is all cleared, we’ll find that the PUMAs are not, themselves, “purged” from the Democratic ranks, as their leaders claim to want to do to the Obama supporters. I suspect that, instead, we will find them in new, improved niches within the party for their sacrifice, all done in the name of “unity” -- whether in victory or defeat.
But it’s just a theory. Really.
-------
One of the more clever political tricks to play is the “false flag” operation. It’s really simple: you get a bunch of people to pretend to be on the other side of your position, and set them up so they look like a legitimate outfit. Then you get the group to either attract opposing activists, and corral them into doing nothing substantive, or make such fools of themselves that anyone who might possibly be on the fence will leap back to your side of things if only to avoid being associated with... THEM.
It’s a clever tactic, and time-honored. In fact, I’ve often suspected David Horowitz’s “Frontpage” to be a long-term false flag, perpetrated on his behalf (along with many unwitting accomplices) to make conservatives look really, really bad. How else could you explain the inanity that tumbles out of his bullcrap mill every day?
(On the other hand, maybe he really just is that loopy.)
But what’s good for the goose is good for the gander. And, in this season of wild accusations without much proof (“Lucille” the waitress on one side, Larry Sinclair on the other, Trig Palin’s parentage in-between) I have an unfounded suspicion of my own.
To wit: the various Democrats Opposing Obama for McCain (DOOM) outfits, while they might be made up of individual stupid people, are being handled and groomed, though maybe not funded, by Democratic operatives in the hopes of preventing said stupid people from doing anything REALLY harmful to the campaign.
Quite a mouthful, I know. Also quite a theory! What do I have to prove this? Nothing. Just a bad, bad feeling.
But...
Watch this video of Chris “Tweetybird” Matthews talking to people claiming to be from Clintons 4 McCain. And keep an eye on the Anne Coulter impersonator in the middle.
Okay, now, you’re probably wanting to burn that out of your mind. But think about this: the garbage that “Anne” is spewing -- how many active, well-informed Democrats do you know of that would really buy into that kind of tripe? The story itself has been researched, debunked, and turned into near-meaningless vapor, circulated only by the likes of Robert “Islam=terror” Spencer and company in the hopes of remaining relevant during the 2008 election cycle.
In other words, if they were hoping to get on national television and present something of a coherent argument as to why they should vote for John McCain rather than Barack Obama, they failed miserably.
And then there’s Party Unity My Ass (PUMA) Or Party Unity Means Action, depending on which graphic you prefer to look at.
One of their head honchos, Will Bower, got on FOX News to explain his side of things. About 1:37 in, the real question is asked: “Why? Why would your group want to vote for John McCain over Barack Obama. On issues, they’re just about diametrically opposed on every issue?”
Will’s answer is... no answer. He points out that, yes, not all PUMAs will vote for John McCain. But then he rambles about having faith in what Obama would do, versus what he says, which is always a good point to make about any politician. However, he neglects to think about the important point that underlies his own: which candidate would be more likely to do what your average Democrat would want him to do -- McCain or Obama?
(FOX News, of course, neglects to point that out, much less call him on his evasions.)
Darragh Murphy, Executive Director of PUMA PAC, told a reporter that “the only way to save the Democratic Party at this point is to destroy it. Mr. Obama must lose, and his supporters must be purged.”
Stalinism, anyone? Since when do Democrats talk like that about their own damn party?
Admittedly, Holy Joe Lieberman IS being shown to the door, at long last, but a full-scale “purge” of Obama supporters -- and there are many of them -- would lead to a crippled, horribly weakened party that would be in no shape to do anything in 2010, and possibly even 2012. How can they NOT see that?
How can they NOT see that having McCain in office would be, from a Democratic standpoint, a terrible thing? How can they NOT see that, from a Democratic standpoint, having Sarah Palin one heartbeat away from the President’s chair would be even worse? How can they NOT see that, while it’s great that a woman was nominated to be Vice President, voting for her ticket over Obama’s would be, from a Democratic standpoint, the equivalent of biting your own nose to spite your face?
And how can they NOT see that, however badly Hillary Clinton was treated in the nomination process, that not voting for Obama over McCain is a horribly selfish, stupid thing to do in the face of a national emergency, a war gone out of bounds, the need to change our economic and environmental policies, and other issues that are vastly more important that whether or not some fools out there looked at Hillary Clinton and saw only a woman, rather than a viable, qualified candidate for the Presidency?
If these people who are organizing these groups were just Johnny-and-Jane-come-latelys who appeared from nowhere, like a bad case of food poisoning, and got some ratty little website going, I’d suspect mere stupidity and laugh at them. If they came from nowhere and scored interviews on FOX News, and had a good website up and running just in time for the hits they’d score after the interview, I’d suspect Republican money was involved, and want to see who paid for their website, and who donated what, when and to whom.
But these people are known quantities: old-hand Democratic activists and fundraisers. They should know what the full stakes are. They should know that, in a time like this, you pull the party together and run with the candidate you have, because the alternative is so much worse.
They should know these things, and yet they aren’t doing it.
And that’s why I suspect there’s a false flag in play. I suspect they have been ordered, under the table, to corral the idiot and doofus populations of the Democratic Party in order to keep them from doing or saying something really damn stupid. And I suspect that they are hoping that their own, stupid and short-sighted antics will keep others from joining them.
To what ultimate end, I don’t know. But I predict that, when the dust is all cleared, we’ll find that the PUMAs are not, themselves, “purged” from the Democratic ranks, as their leaders claim to want to do to the Obama supporters. I suspect that, instead, we will find them in new, improved niches within the party for their sacrifice, all done in the name of “unity” -- whether in victory or defeat.
But it’s just a theory. Really.
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